that's very crucial, that we lose for 18 months even the pro-- slim possibility of an opt-in for the customers. how many customers opt out at the beginning of the program is crucial and that's why the build-out component is so important. on the issue of surveys, if we don't do what local power is proposing we're not going to have any data with which to dovetail that with local power's proposal and integrate it with the program. so, yes, we need to do survey work that includes the whole package that local power is proposing including the rates they're proposing which are much lower than the rates being proposed by the straight shell program start-up. and also a potential opportunity for customers to share in ownership and benefits. and, so, the most important thing to say, though, is that it's really key -- and this is the answer to your primary question -- that what local power is designing, these build design specifically with the understanding that the shell contract is sort of sack row sirthctiontionv. it is what it is and we have to work with the shell contract. * sacrosynct the